See also
| Husband: | John PALMER (1834-1905) | |
| Wife: | Mary Ann BROWN (1839?- ) | |
| Children: | John Arthur PALMER (1861?- ) | |
| Mary Ann Alberta PALMER (1863-1942?) | ||
| Edith Annie PALMER (1865?- ) | ||
| Florence BEATRICE PALMER (1868?- ) | ||
| Elsie Ellen PALMER (1879?- ) | ||
| Marriage | 5 Apr 1860 | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England1 |
| Marriage | Aston |
| Name: | John PALMER2 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Father: | John PALMER (1803?-1885) | |
| Mother: | Mary HOBBIS (1799?- ) | |
| Birth | 19 Sep 1834 | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England3,4,5 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 6) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Census (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 16) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Census (3) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 26) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England8,9 |
| Occupation (1) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 26) | Steel Toy Manufacturer; Harborne, Staffordshire, England8 |
| Census (4) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 36) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England9,10 |
| Occupation (2) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 36) | Heavy steel toy manufacturer; Smethwick, Staffordshire, England10 |
| Census (5) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 46) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Occupation (3) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 46) | Heavy Steel Toy Manufacturer4 |
| Census (6) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 55 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Occupation (4) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 56) | Steel Toy Factor; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Census (7) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 66) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Occupation (5) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 66) | Heavy Steel Toy Manufacturer; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Death | 26 Mar 1905 (age 70) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England13 |
| Probate | 7 Feb 1907 | Birmingham13 |
| Birth | Bond Street Baptist |
| Census (1) | Hagley Rd. |
| Census (2) | Harbourne Lane |
| Census (3) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (4) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (5) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (6) | 16 Hagley Road |
| Census (7) | 16 Hagley Rd. |
| Death | 91 Poplar Rd., Edgbaston |
| Name: | Mary Ann BROWN13 | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Father: | Joseph Soden BROWN (1815-1841) | |
| Mother: | - | |
| Birth | 1839 (cal) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 2) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England14 |
| Census (2) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 22) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England8,9 |
| Census (3) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 32) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England9,10 |
| Census (4) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 42) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Occupation (1) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 41-42) | Draper4 |
| Census (5) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 51) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Census (6) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 61) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Census (7) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 72) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England15 |
| Occupation (2) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 72) | Private Means; Birmingham, Warwickshire, England15 |
| Census (1) | 164 Hockley |
| Census (2) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (3) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (4) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (5) | 16 Hagley Road |
| Census (6) | 16 Hagley Rd. |
| Census (7) | 34 Summerfield Crescent |
| Name: | John Arthur PALMER | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Spouse: | Elizabeth PICKERING (1862?- ) | |
| Birth | Jan 1861 (app) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England4,16 |
| Census (1) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 2 mns) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England8,9 |
| Census (2) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 10) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England9,10 |
| Census (3) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 20) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Occupation (1) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 20) | Draper; Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Census (4) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 40) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England17 |
| Occupation (2) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 40) | Accountant's Commercial Clerk; Harborne, Staffordshire, England17 |
| Census (5) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 50) | Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England18 |
| Occupation (3) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 50) | Accountant; Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England18 |
| Census (1) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (2) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (3) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Occupation (1) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (4) | 44 Waterloo Road |
| Census (5) | 125 Cheshire Rd., Smethwick |
| Name: | Mary Ann Alberta PALMER | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Spouse: | Alfred GRICE (1853-1917) | |
| Birth | 3 May 1863 | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England19 |
| Census (1) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 7) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England9,10 |
| Census (2) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 17) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Occupation | 3 Apr 1881 (age 17) | Draper4 |
| Census (3) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 27) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England20 |
| Census (4) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 37) | Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England21 |
| Census (5) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 47) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England22 |
| Death | Jan 1942 (app) (age 78) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England23 |
| Census (1) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (2) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (3) | 35 Bearwood Rd. |
| Census (5) | 36 Summerfield Crescent |
| Name: | Edith Annie PALMER | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | Jul 1865 (app) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England4,24 |
| Census (1) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 5) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England9,10 |
| Census (2) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 15) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Occupation (1) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 15) | Draper4 |
| Census (3) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 25) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Occupation (2) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 25) | Milliner Dress; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Census (4) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 34 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Occupation (3) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 35) | Jewellers Clerk; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Census (5) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 45) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England15 |
| Census (1) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (2) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (3) | 16 Hagley Road |
| Census (4) | 16 Hagley Rd. |
| Census (5) | 34 Summerfield Crescent |
| Name: | Florence BEATRICE PALMER25 | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | Apr 1868 (app) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England4,25 |
| Census (1) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 3) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England9,10 |
| Census (2) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 13) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Census (3) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 23) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Occupation (1) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 23) | Dressmaker; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Census (4) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 32) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Occupation (2) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 32) | Dressmaker - Own account at home; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Census (5) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 42) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England15 |
| Occupation (3) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 42) | Letting Appartments; Birmingham, Warwickshire, England15 |
| Census (1) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (2) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (3) | 16 Hagley Road |
| Census (4) | 16 Hagley Rd. |
| Census (5) | 34 Summerfield Crescent |
| Name: | Elsie Ellen PALMER | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | Oct 1879 (app) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England4,26 |
| Census (1) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 18 mns (!)) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England4 |
| Census (2) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 11) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Occupation (1) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 11) | Scholar; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Census (3) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 21) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Occupation (2) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 21) | School Board Teacher; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England12 |
| Census (4) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 31) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England15 |
| Occupation (3) | 2 Apr 1911 (age 31) | School Mistress; Birmingham, Warwickshire, England15 |
| Census (1) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (2) | 16 Hagley Road |
| Census (3) | 16 Hagley Rd. |
| Census (4) | 34 Summerfield Crescent |
| 1 | "Palmer John (b.1836) & Mary Brown - Marriage Certificate". |
| 2 | "Palmer John (b1804) - Probate". |
| 3 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for John Palmer Name John Palmer Gender Male Birth Date 19 Sep 1834 Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Palmer Mother's Name Mary IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734729%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D |
| 4 | "Census 1881 All Saints Birmigham RG11/3005 52 pg1 (John Palmer)". |
| 5 | "Bond Street Baptist Chapel". |
| 6 | "Census 1841 Harborne, Staffordshire HO107/980/5 (John Palmer (b.1804)". |
| 7 | "Census 1851 Harbourne HO107/2050/67 Pg18 (John Palmer (b.1804))". |
| 8 | "Census 1861 Harborne, Worcestershire RG9/2125/94 Pg2 (John Palmer (b.1835))". |
| 9 | "Beech Lanes". |
| 10 | "Census 1871 Smethwick, Staffordshire RG10/3086/3 Pg2 (Palmer John)". |
| 11 | "Census 1891 Harbourne Staffs RG12/2362 34 Pg22 (John Palmer)". |
| 12 | "Census 1901 Harbourne Kings Norton RG13/2818 146 pg2 (John Palmer)". |
| 13 | "Palmer John (b.1834) - Probate". |
| 14 | "Census 1841 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England HO107//1141/F? Pg.119 (Mary Ann Brown)". |
| 15 | "Census 1911 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England RG14PN18011 RG78PN1095 RD384 SD1 ED23 SN34 (Mary Ann Palmer (Nee Brown B.1839))". |
| 16 | "GRO Birth Index". Text From Source: England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about John Arthur Palmer Name: John Arthur Palmer Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Kings Norton (To 1912) County: Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 473 |
| 17 | "Census 1901 Harborne, Staffordshire, England RG13/2819/~F90 (JOhn Arthur Palmer)". |
| 18 | "Census 1911 Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England RG14PN17956 RG78PN1094 RD383 SD4 ED14 SN298 (John Arthur Palmer (b.1861))". |
| 19 | "Palmer Mary Ann Alberta b.1863) - Birth Certficate". |
| 20 | "Census 1891 Kings Norton Harbourne RG12/2362 19 Pg31 (Alfred Grice)". |
| 21 | "Census 1901 Edgbaston, Warwick RG13 2815 11 pg 14 (Alfred Grice)". |
| 22 | "Census 1911 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England RG14PN18011 RG78PN1095 RD384 SD1 ED23 SN38 (Alfred Grice (b.1853))". |
| 23 | "GRO Death Index". Text From Source: England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Mary A A Grice Name: Mary A A Grice Death Registration Month/Year: 1942 Age at death (estimated): 78 Registration district: Bromsgrove Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 527 |
| 24 | "GRO Birth Index". Text From Source: England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Edith Annie Palmer Name: Edith Annie Palmer Year of Registration: 1865 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Kings Norton (To 1912) County: Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 415 |
| 25 | Ibid. Text From Source: England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Florence Beatrice Palmer Name: Florence Beatrice Palmer Year of Registration: 1868 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Kings Norton (To 1912) County: Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 466 |
| 26 | Ibid. Text From Source: England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Elsie Ellen Palmer Name: Elsie Ellen Palmer Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 215 |
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