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Family of John PALMER and Mary HOBBIS

Husband: John PALMER (1803?-1885)
Wife: Mary HOBBIS (1799?- )
Children: Charlotte PALMER (1826-1846)
Mary PALMER (1828- )
Thomas PALMER (1830-1906)
Harriet PALMER (1832- )
John PALMER (1834-1905)
Eliza PALMER (1836- )
Marriage 25 Aug 1825 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England1,2

Additional Information

Marriage Aston Juxta

Husband: John PALMER

Name: John PALMER3,4
Sex: Male
Father: Thomas PALMER (1767?- )
Mother: Sarah GREEN ( - )
Birth 1803 (cal) Chew Magna, Somerset, England5,6
Baptism 27 Oct 1803 (age 0) Chew Magna, Somerset, England5
Census (1) 6 Jun 1841 (age 35 (!)) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Occupation (1) 6 Jun 1841 (age 37-38) Steel Toy; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Census (2) 30 Mar 1851 (age 47) Harborne, Staffordshire, England6
Occupation (2) 30 Mar 1851 (age 47-48) Hammer Manufacturer Employing 7 men & 2 boys; Harborne, Staffordshire, England6
Census (3) 7 Apr 1861 (age 57) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8
Occupation (3) 7 Apr 1861 (age 57-58) Hammer & Coal ?? maker; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8
Census (4) 2 Apr 1871 (age 67) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9
Occupation (4) 2 Apr 1871 (age 67-68) Hammer Maker Employs 14 men and 6 boys; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9
Will 1 Sep 1879 (age 75-76) Lichfield, Staffordshire, England10
Census (5) 3 Apr 1881 (age 77) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11
Occupation (5) 3 Apr 1881 (age 77-78) Heavy Steel Toy Maker; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11
Death 17 Feb 1885 (age 81-82) Harborne, Staffordshire, England10
Probate 22 May 1885 Lichfield, Staffordshire, England10

Additional Information

Census (1) Hagley Rd.
Census (2) Harbourne Lane
Census (3) Harborne Lane
Census (4) Harborne Lane
Census (5) Harborne Lane
Death Harborne Lane

Wife: Mary HOBBIS

Name: Mary HOBBIS1
Sex: Female
Father: -
Mother: -
Birth 1799 (cal) Northfield, Worcestershire, England6
Census (1) 6 Jun 1841 (age 40 (!)) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Census (2) 30 Mar 1851 (age 52) Harborne, Staffordshire, England6
Census (3) 7 Apr 1861 (age 62) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8
Census (4) 2 Apr 1871 (age 72) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9

Additional Information

Census (1) Hagley Rd.
Census (2) Harbourne Lane
Census (3) Harborne Lane
Census (4) Harborne Lane

Child 1: Charlotte PALMER

Name: Charlotte PALMER
Sex: Female
Birth 21 Aug 1826 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England7,12,13
Census 6 Jun 1841 (age 14) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Death Q4 1846 (age 20) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England14

Additional Information

Birth Bond Street Baptist, Birmingham
Census Hagley Rd.

Child 2: Mary PALMER

Name: Mary PALMER
Sex: Female
Birth 26 Sep 1828 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England7,13,15
Census 6 Jun 1841 (age 12) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7

Additional Information

Birth Bond Street Baptist
Census Hagley Rd.

Child 3: Thomas PALMER

Name: Thomas PALMER10,16
Sex: Male
Spouse 1: Mary Ann WALTERS (1828?-bef1871)
Spouse 2: Mary Ann LINES (1848?- )
Birth 29 Sep 1830 Halesowen, Shropshire, England6,13,17
Census (1) 6 Jun 1841 (age 12 (!)) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Census (2) 30 Mar 1851 (age 20) Harborne, Staffordshire, England6
Census (3) 7 Apr 1861 (age 30) Smethwick, Staffordshire, England18,19
Occupation (1) 7 Apr 1861 (age 30) Heavy Steel Toy Maker; Smethwick, Staffordshire, England18
Census (4) 2 Apr 1871 (age 40) Harborne, Staffordshire, England19,20
Occupation (2) 2 Apr 1871 (age 40) Hammer Maker; Harborne, Staffordshire, England20
Census (5) 3 Apr 1881 (age 50) Harborne, Staffordshire, England21
Occupation (3) 3 Apr 1881 (age 50) Heavy Steel Toy Maker 25 men & 2 youths; Harborne, Staffordshire, England21
Census (6) 5 Apr 1891 (age 60) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England22
Occupation (4) 5 Apr 1891 (age 60) Hammer & Screw Maker22
Census (7) 31 Mar 1901 (age 70) Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England23
Occupation (5) 31 Mar 1901 (age 70) Heavy Steel Toy Maker; Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England23
Death 27 Sep 1906 (age 75) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England16
Probate 28 Feb 1907 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England16

Additional Information

Birth Bond Street Baptist Chapel
Census (1) Hagley Rd.
Census (2) Harbourne Lane
Census (3) Beech Lanes
Census (4) Beech Lanes
Census (5) 15 Hagley Road
Census (6) 17 Hagley Road
Census (7) 17 Hagley Rd.
Death 48 Rann St., Ladywood

Child 4: Harriet PALMER

Name: Harriet PALMER10
Sex: Female
Birth 30 Nov 1832 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England13,24,25
Census (1) 6 Jun 1841 (age 8) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Census (2) 30 Mar 1851 (age 18) Harborne, Staffordshire, England6
Census (3) 7 Apr 1861 (age 26 (!)) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8
Census (4) 2 Apr 1871 (age 30 (!)) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9
Census (5) 31 Mar 1901 (age 68) Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England25

Additional Information

Birth Bond Street Baptist
Census (1) Hagley Rd.
Census (2) Harbourne Lane
Census (3) Harborne Lane
Census (4) Harborne Lane

Child 5: John PALMER

Name: John PALMER10
Sex: Male
Spouse: Mary Ann BROWN (1839?- )
Birth 19 Sep 1834 Handsworth, Staffordshire, England13,26,27
Census (1) 6 Jun 1841 (age 6) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Census (2) 30 Mar 1851 (age 16) Harborne, Staffordshire, England6
Census (3) 7 Apr 1861 (age 26) Harborne, Staffordshire, England19,28
Occupation (1) 7 Apr 1861 (age 26) Steel Toy Manufacturer; Harborne, Staffordshire, England28
Census (4) 2 Apr 1871 (age 36) Smethwick, Staffordshire, England19,29
Occupation (2) 2 Apr 1871 (age 36) Heavy steel toy manufacturer; Smethwick, Staffordshire, England29
Census (5) 3 Apr 1881 (age 46) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England27
Occupation (3) 3 Apr 1881 (age 46) Heavy Steel Toy Manufacturer27
Census (6) 5 Apr 1891 (age 55 (!)) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England22
Occupation (4) 5 Apr 1891 (age 56) Steel Toy Factor; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England22
Census (7) 31 Mar 1901 (age 66) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England30
Occupation (5) 31 Mar 1901 (age 66) Heavy Steel Toy Manufacturer; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England30
Death 26 Mar 1905 (age 70) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England31
Probate 7 Feb 1907 Birmingham31

Additional Information

Birth Bond Street Baptist
Census (1) Hagley Rd.
Census (2) Harbourne Lane
Census (3) Beech Lanes
Census (4) Beech Lanes
Census (5) 147 Dudley Rd
Census (6) 16 Hagley Road
Census (7) 16 Hagley Rd.
Death 91 Poplar Rd., Edgbaston

Child 6: Eliza PALMER

Name: Eliza PALMER
Sex: Female
Birth 31 Oct 1836 Halesowen, Shropshire, England6,13,32
Census (1) 6 Jun 1841 (age 4) Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7
Census (2) 30 Mar 1851 (age 14) Harborne, Staffordshire, England6

Additional Information

Birth Bond Street Baptist, Birmingham
Census (1) Hagley Rd.
Census (2) Harbourne Lane

Note on Husband: John PALMER - shared note

3

Sources

1"Ron Geeson".
2The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Marriages, 1538–1973 for Mary Hobbis

Groom's Name: John Palmer
Bride's Name: Mary Hobbis
Marriage Date: 25 Aug 1825
Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham ,Warwick,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 507832
3"John Geesin".
4"Palmer John (b.1836) & Mary Brown - Marriage Certificate".
5"Palmer John (b.1803) - Parish Baptism".
6"Census 1851 Harbourne HO107/2050/67 Pg18 (John Palmer (b.1804))".
7"Census 1841 Harborne, Staffordshire HO107/980/5 (John Palmer (b.1804)".
8"Census 1861 Harborne, Staffordshire RG9/2125/24 Pg10 (John Palmer (b.1804))".
9"Census 1871 Harborne, Staffordshire RG10/3085/33 Pg13 (John Palmer (b.1804))".
10"Palmer John (b1804) - Probate".
11"Census 1881 Harborne, Staffordshire RG11/2958/50 Pg43 (John Palmer (b.1804))".
12The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Charlotte Palmer

Name Charlotte Palmer
Gender Female
Birth Date 21 Aug 1826
Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Palmer
Mother's Name Mary

IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951735030%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D
13"Bond Street Baptist Chapel".
14"GRO Death Index". Text From Source: England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Charlotte Palmer
Name:Charlotte Palmer
Year of Registration:1846
Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec
District:Birmingham (1837-1924)
County:Warwickshire
Volume:16
Page:283
15The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Mary Ann Palmer

Name Mary Ann Palmer
Gender Female
Birth Date 26 Sep 1828
Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Palmer
Mother's Name Mary

IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951735102%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D
16"Palmer Thomas (b.1830) - Probate".
17The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Thomas Palmer

Name Thomas Palmer
Gender Male
Birth Date 29 Sep 1830
Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Palmer
Mother's Name Mary

IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734441%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D
18"Census 1861 Smethwick, Harbourne RG9/2125/94 Pg 2 (Thomas Palmer (b.1831))".
19"Beech Lanes".
20"Census 1871 Harbourne RG10/3086/3 Pg2 (Thomas Palmer (b.1831))".
21"Census 1881 Harbourne RG11/2959/70 Pg36 (Thmas Palmer (b.1831))".
22"Census 1891 Harbourne Staffs RG12/2362 34 Pg22 (John Palmer)".
23"Census 1901 Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England RG13/2818/146/Pg 2 (Thomas Palmer (b.1830))" (RG13/2818/146/Pg 2).
24The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Harriot Palmer

Name Harriot Palmer
Gender Female
Baptism/Christening Date
Baptism/Christening Place
Birth Date 30 Nov 1832
Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Palmer
Mother's Name Mary

IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734939%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D
25"Census 1901 Edgbaston, Warwick RG13 2815 11 pg 14 (Alfred Grice)".
26The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for John Palmer

Name John Palmer
Gender Male
Birth Date 19 Sep 1834
Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Palmer
Mother's Name Mary

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27"Census 1881 All Saints Birmigham RG11/3005 52 pg1 (John Palmer)".
28"Census 1861 Harborne, Worcestershire RG9/2125/94 Pg2 (John Palmer (b.1835))".
29"Census 1871 Smethwick, Staffordshire RG10/3086/3 Pg2 (Palmer John)".
30"Census 1901 Harbourne Kings Norton RG13/2818 146 pg2 (John Palmer)".
31"Palmer John (b.1834) - Probate".
32The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Eliza Palmer

Name Eliza Palmer
Gender Female
Birth Date 31 Oct 1836
Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Palmer
Mother's Name Mary

IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734869%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D