See also
| Husband: | John PALMER (1803?-1885) | |
| Wife: | Mary HOBBIS (1799?- ) | |
| Children: | Charlotte PALMER (1826-1846) | |
| Mary PALMER (1828- ) | ||
| Thomas PALMER (1830-1906) | ||
| Harriet PALMER (1832- ) | ||
| John PALMER (1834-1905) | ||
| Eliza PALMER (1836- ) | ||
| Marriage | 25 Aug 1825 | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England1,2 |
| Marriage | Aston Juxta |
| Name: | John PALMER3,4 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Father: | Thomas PALMER (1767?- ) | |
| Mother: | Sarah GREEN ( - ) | |
| Birth | 1803 (cal) | Chew Magna, Somerset, England5,6 |
| Baptism | 27 Oct 1803 (age 0) | Chew Magna, Somerset, England5 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 35 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Occupation (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 37-38) | Steel Toy; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Census (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 47) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Occupation (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 47-48) | Hammer Manufacturer Employing 7 men & 2 boys; Harborne, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Census (3) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 57) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8 |
| Occupation (3) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 57-58) | Hammer & Coal ?? maker; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8 |
| Census (4) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 67) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9 |
| Occupation (4) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 67-68) | Hammer Maker Employs 14 men and 6 boys; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9 |
| Will | 1 Sep 1879 (age 75-76) | Lichfield, Staffordshire, England10 |
| Census (5) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 77) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Occupation (5) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 77-78) | Heavy Steel Toy Maker; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England11 |
| Death | 17 Feb 1885 (age 81-82) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England10 |
| Probate | 22 May 1885 | Lichfield, Staffordshire, England10 |
| Census (1) | Hagley Rd. |
| Census (2) | Harbourne Lane |
| Census (3) | Harborne Lane |
| Census (4) | Harborne Lane |
| Census (5) | Harborne Lane |
| Death | Harborne Lane |
| Name: | Mary HOBBIS1 | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Father: | - | |
| Mother: | - | |
| Birth | 1799 (cal) | Northfield, Worcestershire, England6 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 40 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Census (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 52) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Census (3) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 62) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8 |
| Census (4) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 72) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9 |
| Census (1) | Hagley Rd. |
| Census (2) | Harbourne Lane |
| Census (3) | Harborne Lane |
| Census (4) | Harborne Lane |
| Name: | Charlotte PALMER | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | 21 Aug 1826 | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England7,12,13 |
| Census | 6 Jun 1841 (age 14) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Death | Q4 1846 (age 20) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England14 |
| Birth | Bond Street Baptist, Birmingham |
| Census | Hagley Rd. |
| Name: | Mary PALMER | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | 26 Sep 1828 | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England7,13,15 |
| Census | 6 Jun 1841 (age 12) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Birth | Bond Street Baptist |
| Census | Hagley Rd. |
| Name: | Thomas PALMER10,16 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Spouse 1: | Mary Ann WALTERS (1828?-bef1871) | |
| Spouse 2: | Mary Ann LINES (1848?- ) | |
| Birth | 29 Sep 1830 | Halesowen, Shropshire, England6,13,17 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 12 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Census (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 20) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Census (3) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 30) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England18,19 |
| Occupation (1) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 30) | Heavy Steel Toy Maker; Smethwick, Staffordshire, England18 |
| Census (4) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 40) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England19,20 |
| Occupation (2) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 40) | Hammer Maker; Harborne, Staffordshire, England20 |
| Census (5) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 50) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England21 |
| Occupation (3) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 50) | Heavy Steel Toy Maker 25 men & 2 youths; Harborne, Staffordshire, England21 |
| Census (6) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 60) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England22 |
| Occupation (4) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 60) | Hammer & Screw Maker22 |
| Census (7) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 70) | Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England23 |
| Occupation (5) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 70) | Heavy Steel Toy Maker; Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England23 |
| Death | 27 Sep 1906 (age 75) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England16 |
| Probate | 28 Feb 1907 | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England16 |
| Birth | Bond Street Baptist Chapel |
| Census (1) | Hagley Rd. |
| Census (2) | Harbourne Lane |
| Census (3) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (4) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (5) | 15 Hagley Road |
| Census (6) | 17 Hagley Road |
| Census (7) | 17 Hagley Rd. |
| Death | 48 Rann St., Ladywood |
| Name: | Harriet PALMER10 | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | 30 Nov 1832 | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England13,24,25 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 8) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Census (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 18) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Census (3) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 26 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England8 |
| Census (4) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 30 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England9 |
| Census (5) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 68) | Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England25 |
| Birth | Bond Street Baptist |
| Census (1) | Hagley Rd. |
| Census (2) | Harbourne Lane |
| Census (3) | Harborne Lane |
| Census (4) | Harborne Lane |
| Name: | John PALMER10 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Spouse: | Mary Ann BROWN (1839?- ) | |
| Birth | 19 Sep 1834 | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England13,26,27 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 6) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Census (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 16) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Census (3) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 26) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England19,28 |
| Occupation (1) | 7 Apr 1861 (age 26) | Steel Toy Manufacturer; Harborne, Staffordshire, England28 |
| Census (4) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 36) | Smethwick, Staffordshire, England19,29 |
| Occupation (2) | 2 Apr 1871 (age 36) | Heavy steel toy manufacturer; Smethwick, Staffordshire, England29 |
| Census (5) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 46) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England27 |
| Occupation (3) | 3 Apr 1881 (age 46) | Heavy Steel Toy Manufacturer27 |
| Census (6) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 55 (!)) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England22 |
| Occupation (4) | 5 Apr 1891 (age 56) | Steel Toy Factor; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England22 |
| Census (7) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 66) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England30 |
| Occupation (5) | 31 Mar 1901 (age 66) | Heavy Steel Toy Manufacturer; Handsworth, Staffordshire, England30 |
| Death | 26 Mar 1905 (age 70) | Birmingham, Warwickshire, England31 |
| Probate | 7 Feb 1907 | Birmingham31 |
| Birth | Bond Street Baptist |
| Census (1) | Hagley Rd. |
| Census (2) | Harbourne Lane |
| Census (3) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (4) | Beech Lanes |
| Census (5) | 147 Dudley Rd |
| Census (6) | 16 Hagley Road |
| Census (7) | 16 Hagley Rd. |
| Death | 91 Poplar Rd., Edgbaston |
| Name: | Eliza PALMER | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | 31 Oct 1836 | Halesowen, Shropshire, England6,13,32 |
| Census (1) | 6 Jun 1841 (age 4) | Handsworth, Staffordshire, England7 |
| Census (2) | 30 Mar 1851 (age 14) | Harborne, Staffordshire, England6 |
| Birth | Bond Street Baptist, Birmingham |
| Census (1) | Hagley Rd. |
| Census (2) | Harbourne Lane |
| 1 | "Ron Geeson". |
| 2 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Marriages, 1538–1973 for Mary Hobbis Groom's Name: John Palmer Bride's Name: Mary Hobbis Marriage Date: 25 Aug 1825 Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham ,Warwick,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 507832 |
| 3 | "John Geesin". |
| 4 | "Palmer John (b.1836) & Mary Brown - Marriage Certificate". |
| 5 | "Palmer John (b.1803) - Parish Baptism". |
| 6 | "Census 1851 Harbourne HO107/2050/67 Pg18 (John Palmer (b.1804))". |
| 7 | "Census 1841 Harborne, Staffordshire HO107/980/5 (John Palmer (b.1804)". |
| 8 | "Census 1861 Harborne, Staffordshire RG9/2125/24 Pg10 (John Palmer (b.1804))". |
| 9 | "Census 1871 Harborne, Staffordshire RG10/3085/33 Pg13 (John Palmer (b.1804))". |
| 10 | "Palmer John (b1804) - Probate". |
| 11 | "Census 1881 Harborne, Staffordshire RG11/2958/50 Pg43 (John Palmer (b.1804))". |
| 12 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Charlotte Palmer Name Charlotte Palmer Gender Female Birth Date 21 Aug 1826 Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Palmer Mother's Name Mary IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951735030%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D |
| 13 | "Bond Street Baptist Chapel". |
| 14 | "GRO Death Index". Text From Source: England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Charlotte Palmer Name:Charlotte Palmer Year of Registration:1846 Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec District:Birmingham (1837-1924) County:Warwickshire Volume:16 Page:283 |
| 15 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Mary Ann Palmer Name Mary Ann Palmer Gender Female Birth Date 26 Sep 1828 Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Palmer Mother's Name Mary IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951735102%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D |
| 16 | "Palmer Thomas (b.1830) - Probate". |
| 17 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Thomas Palmer Name Thomas Palmer Gender Male Birth Date 29 Sep 1830 Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Palmer Mother's Name Mary IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734441%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D |
| 18 | "Census 1861 Smethwick, Harbourne RG9/2125/94 Pg 2 (Thomas Palmer (b.1831))". |
| 19 | "Beech Lanes". |
| 20 | "Census 1871 Harbourne RG10/3086/3 Pg2 (Thomas Palmer (b.1831))". |
| 21 | "Census 1881 Harbourne RG11/2959/70 Pg36 (Thmas Palmer (b.1831))". |
| 22 | "Census 1891 Harbourne Staffs RG12/2362 34 Pg22 (John Palmer)". |
| 23 | "Census 1901 Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England RG13/2818/146/Pg 2 (Thomas Palmer (b.1830))" (RG13/2818/146/Pg 2). |
| 24 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Harriot Palmer Name Harriot Palmer Gender Female Baptism/Christening Date Baptism/Christening Place Birth Date 30 Nov 1832 Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Palmer Mother's Name Mary IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734939%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D |
| 25 | "Census 1901 Edgbaston, Warwick RG13 2815 11 pg 14 (Alfred Grice)". |
| 26 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for John Palmer Name John Palmer Gender Male Birth Date 19 Sep 1834 Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Palmer Mother's Name Mary IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734729%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D |
| 27 | "Census 1881 All Saints Birmigham RG11/3005 52 pg1 (John Palmer)". |
| 28 | "Census 1861 Harborne, Worcestershire RG9/2125/94 Pg2 (John Palmer (b.1835))". |
| 29 | "Census 1871 Smethwick, Staffordshire RG10/3086/3 Pg2 (Palmer John)". |
| 30 | "Census 1901 Harbourne Kings Norton RG13/2818 146 pg2 (John Palmer)". |
| 31 | "Palmer John (b.1834) - Probate". |
| 32 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "IGI Record". Text From Source: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Eliza Palmer Name Eliza Palmer Gender Female Birth Date 31 Oct 1836 Birthplace BOND STREET BAPTIST,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Palmer Mother's Name Mary IGI URL: http://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_951734869%2Fp1&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D |
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